Q:Could you start a celebrity personality type section?
Also, just curious, what's the personality type of Anna Wintour, Beyonce, and Lady Gaga?
I will work on that JUST FOR YOU, anon :)
It will take me a while (I’m taking summer classes, and I’m typing lots of people). It’s funny, I was just looking at some of the websites that do celebrity typing like this one, so horrible, it made me shutter. A lot of it was just team cheering.
It’s a shame. Jung’s types are not “teams,” they are just archetypes. Jung took the time to look into those archetypes in depth.
He would just observe, for example, an ISTPs behavior, and seek to understand the underlying reasons for their behavior and discover the components of their perspective. His observations are just a type’s extraverted manifestation of their brain orientation.
He just organized it all. That’s all he did. He just took a bunch of information that was already there, and organized it.
Edit: Oops! Anna Wintour? I have no idea, prolly some sort of NT, Beyonce is an ESTJ and Gaga is an INTP.
Q:Something I'm noticing is that the ENTJ is often painted as the "villain" type in fiction, and after looking through many forums, I've found that a lot of people find ENTJs, especially female ENTJs, to be "crazy" and "unmanageable."
Why is this so? What makes the ENTJ more "villainous" than other types, and why are we painted as being so crazy? Many characters that other people type as ENTJs do not seem like ENTJs at all, but rather weaker versions of other types or people who are not fully developed and therefore not fully one type at all. Or, am I wrong, and am I set up to be a world dictator or something?
It’s even broader than just ENTJ (because INTJs get it too) it’s Ni dominants. Ni and Se are opposed and it’s like 10% Ni and 30% Se (the other 60% is the Ne Si opposition).
Really roughly and really generally, Ps tend to get into creative pursuits, which means a lot of SPs, because, like I mentioned above, they are about 30% of the population. So, you’ve got this “I’m an Se dominant and my inferior Ni is bad because it’s directly opposed and really malnourished and so I must squelch any presence of it so I don’t have to deal with it ever,” sort of attitude and that kind of universal struggle (the conflicting parts of us in conflict) is bound to show up somewhere in people’s creative works.
Along with Ni dominants being infrequent, there’s Te that’s a problem. There aren’t more F dominants than T dominants, but they are “louder”. Louder in that they get worked up about things. So the “Te is mean, obnoxious, rude, demanding, crazy, unmanageable, detached,” attitude is, again, manifested in people’s creative works.
And female, ENTJs? Society and Psychology (which pains me to no end) think that women are “Fs (specifically, Fe)” and men are “Ts (specifically Te).” You know, the “women are caring, socially oriented, concerned with the feelings of others,” etc, and “men are logical, rational, have activity oriented relationships,” thing.
Really, it’s just that Fs are those things and Ts are those things. So a girl who is a T, is seen as “contrary, unreasonable, unmanageable,” and things like that because they don’t follow, “F” type schemata, gender roles, display rules, etc. And then even more so, an ENTJ girl who has an inferior F function (Fi) is like “What the heck are these unspoken social rules and political correctness (Fe)?! I don’t understand. Why would I use veiled language (Fe)? That’s not useful or efficient (Te)! And why the heck do you want me to pause and assess the things I like, don’t like, value, believe in all the time (Fi)?! That’s not efficient or impartial at all (Te)!”
You get those weak characters you mentioned when you have a writer that thinks they understand that “type of person,” but they really don’t, so the character ends up being overall inconsistent.
The take home message is that ENTJ abundance is low enough for them to be misunderstood and sometimes even vilified, but fundamentally *distinct, because people recognize the type when they see it. The ENTJ’s functions are functions that are generally associated with males, so, a female ENTJ doesn’t fit the “woman” schemata, and gender roles because their brain functions under “male gender roles.”
*Distinct: Recognizably different in nature from something else of a similar type.
Q:i dont know if you answered this but what type are you?
Hanna:ISTJ
Alec/TheAlecDelgado:INTJ
Laura/theideathief:ENFP
Q:So I've always thought I was an ENFP, however I just retested and got ENTP with with a strong, strong favor of T over F.
I relate more to the ENFP descriptions, but that doesn't explain why I'd test so strongly towards T.
Why is this?
I almost deleted this question because you should really just check the FAQs (please still check out this link even though I’m answering your question), but because you were interested in why, I decided to show your question mercy :P
It’s good to be interested in why things are the way they are. Not that many people are interested in why.
ANYWAY.
Well, if you are an ENFP, you could be testing towards T because you have a well developed tertiary T function, extraverted thinking (Te). ENTPs have a higher thinking function (obviously) but it is introverted thinking (Ti).
Remember that the inventories do not test for functions, they test for your preferences in each of the four dichotomies (E/I, N/S, T/F, J/P).
The more well developed you are, the more you can use all of your functions with ease, not just your dominant two. Perhaps in this case, you have been developing your tertiary extraverted thinking (Te).
Q:fictional ESTP's?
Jaime Randall, Love and Other Drugs
Samantha Jones, Sex In The City
Bart Simpson, The Simpsons
Peppermint Patty, Peanuts
Q:could you figure out a celeb's type if i linked you to their twitter?
That, along with interviews, yes. Though, it’s hard to tell with celebrities sometimes because some of them have crazy publicists who create their persona.
Q:What about INTJ's? Are there any in modern television shows?
Sherlock Holmes, Sherlock
Daria Morgendorffer, Daria
Q:Who are some more modern ENTPs in fiction? Like say, from shows like Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Gossip Girl, Grey's Anatomy, Game of Thrones, X-Files, Doctor Who etc?
The Eleventh Doctor, Doctor Who
Hiccup, How To Train Your Dragon.
Flint Lockwood, Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs.
Elmo, Sesame Street
Q:I'm an INFP, and I'm tired of never being able to finish what I start, of not being able to carry out tasks, even the ones that interest me. I'm also terribly disorganized. Do you know any sort of 'exercise' that would help me develop my Te?
This is going to be a long answer, sorry anon. I’m going to try my best not to ramble.
Well, you’re already on your way! If you want to grow and be, like The Doctor says, “extraordinary,” having a positive attitude towards tackling the weaker sides of you is a good start!
Developing heuristics is good way of getting yourself to Te. I have weak Te too, and I had a hard time being organized, but I found a system that worked. I use my higher functions to help me.
For school, I use Extraverted Intuition (Ne) and Introverted Feeling (Fi) to pick my school supplies. I’ve found that finding a folder/notebook hybrid works best. Something like these. It ensures I don’t lose anything, because all my notes are there in order. I just open my notebook and begin taking notes on the next line, just under my notes from the previous class. Anytime there are extra papers that are passed out, or printed, I just stick them in the built in folder/section divider, in the section I’ve reserved for the class. It forces you to be organized (Te), but the color I picked for myself (and for the class, the one that “fits” it best) makes me happy (Fi).
Having a big desk calendar or one on your computer (like iCal, Windows Calender, Thunderbird) is good too. At the beginning of each semester, I take all of my syllabi and (again, using Fi to match the colors I think “fit” the classes best) write down all of the exams, quizzes, and due dates for papers. I also reserve a color for general things I need to do, like doctors appointments, and extra curricular things like volunteering or meetings for work. It takes the pressure off, because you don’t have to be on top of things all the time, your calender is for you. Every day, before you start and end your day, check it.
As far as exercise, I would say that maybe engaging yourself in a Te sort of task or game with a goal would be a good idea. Something like Portal/Portal 2. You’d be having fun, while working on your weaker functions :)
Edit: There’s one other thing I forgot! Chunk your projects. If you start an art project, for example, give yourself little deadlines to complete parts of the whole instead of trying to tackle all of it at once. Then it doesn’t seem so overwhelming.
thealecdelgado replied to your post: So. Many. Oh dear.
ALSO: PLEASE READ THE FAQ posts before asking questions!
This too.
